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WEBVTT
Kind: captions
Language: en
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English (AU) (Spoken) [Manually Transcribed Captions]
github.com/WizardTim/WizardTim-captions
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So I'm in the need of some TO-3 transistors
like this one here although this one here is
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a genuine HP spare from Motorola, it's some
sort of BJT transistor this one's from 1988
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so I don't particularly want to use this one but
this is what a TO-3 transistor looks like if you
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haven't seen one before it's a three pin device
although one of the pins is actually the case
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but I need a few TO-3 transistors
for a project it's just a constant
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current dummy load so I don't really want
to spend very much on the transistors for
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it but I’d like to use TO-3 transistors
as something cool and unusual as using
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TO-220 transistors does get a bit boring after
a while although TO-220 is quite a nice package
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so I’ve heard that the 2N3055 is a rather common
TO-3 transistor so searching it up on Digi-Key we find
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a few results here we have one, oh, unit price
call and unit price AU$65 no thank you although
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they do have some more and uh AU$107 no thanks
other than there so in stock and also exclude
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marketplace items because I do not trust this
Rochester Electronics I swear they mislead people
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on how many they have in stock I’ve seen them
with millions in stock which is not feasible but
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searching for that we've got two left
one for AU$107 which no chance and the other
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from ON-Semi for AU$9.73 and they
actually have stock although that's still way too
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much if I was doing an actual proper project this
is what I would buy but as just something for fun
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um yeah no thank you so of course when you can't
find something for a reasonable price on Digi-Key
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of course down to eBay and here we have an eBay
listing for those same transistors and we get
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10 for the low low price of AU$4.84 although
plus AU$2.64 shipping which is much better than
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nine dollars and something for just one but how
reputable are these especially when buying from
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eBay which doesn't really support per listing
feedback unlike AliExpress where you tend to
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get a lot more feedback per listing and per
seller so these look pretty suspicious although
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I think it will be rather interesting to see
what actually shows up so I’ve bought them
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and this is what showed up here and oh
boy yeah these look very very uh genuine
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let's have a closer look at one of them
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yeah so this marking looks a bit
suspicious although it does say ST 2N3055
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and a whole bunch of other manufacturing
codes which seem to be the same on all of them
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although interestingly comparing it to
the genuine HP part we can see that the
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thickness of the metal and the size and
shape of the can is actually correct so
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maybe there is a chance for this
one although if you've been paying
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especially close attention you may have noticed
there's something a little bit off about the top
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it almost looks like someone has painted over the
previous marking and put a new one on yeah that's
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very confidence inspiring now in this case it's
pretty obvious the paint doesn't match very well
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although here's a trick many people when making
paints they only really anticipate that people are
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going to look at them under normal light so they
don't really think about matching the paint for
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UV light so looking at this under UV light we can
see yes there's a massive difference between where
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it's been painted yeah and this one's actually
rather good they uh managed to get it on only
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the top although here's one where they were a bit
too generous with the paint and it's uh leaked
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down the side so let's see maybe there's
something underneath this paint not quite
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sure why they'd paint over it and not just rub the
previous marking off so maybe it's laser engraved
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so spraying it with some isopropanol alcohol and
wiping it we can see it comes off pretty easy
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so then I just submerged
it in some more isopropanol
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and then gave it a bit of a rub
more and the paint quickly came off
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although unfortunately we can see underneath it
isn't laser engraved it presumably was just ink
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stamped so I’m not quite sure why they'd bother to
paint over the entire thing instead of just taking
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it off with solvent but sure whatever it must be
cheaper somehow I don't really understand how low
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paint's somewhat expensive especially metallic-ish
paint although one thing I quickly realized was
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that you don't actually have to submerge this
in alcohol to remove the paint the paint can
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just be scraped off with a plastic tool like this
ruler here so I’m rather interested to see what's
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actually inside this so I took a pair of side
cutters to it and just started cutting it open
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I could have used the Dremel but I didn't really
want to get filings of metal all over this thing
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because I think it might be interesting to have
a look at it working without the case on and now
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that we've got a little hole we can see that yes
there is actually a die in here and it's a lot
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bigger than I was expecting I was expecting some
tiny little two by two millimetre die that's out
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of say a 2N222 transistor that they've stuck in
here but no it is actually a reasonably large die
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so this may actually be a genuine part.
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So cutting it into it more just
to take the entire lid off.
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And if you do go doing this please be careful
because the metal ends up being quite sharp.
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and now that we've got it all off we can see that
the die is actually mounted on this little piece
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of metal here which presumably increases the
junction-to-case thermal coefficient
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so they definitely haven't cheaped out on that
aspect so I’m wondering if this is actually a
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genuine part that's actually a different
transistor that they've just relabelled 2N3055
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because that's a very commonly searched transistor
and people will maybe pay more for that so I’m not
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quite sure what's really going on here because
this transistor looks like it would do the job
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there's nothing really wrong with the size of
the die or the construction of the metal case
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the wire bonding is a bit dodgy but I mean that's
sort of to be expected in these sort of low cost
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electronics but I mean it would still work the
wire bond here that's broken though that that
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was because of me so yes rather interesting to see
what's inside one of these cheap eBay transistors
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So I hope you at least learnt something
maybe out of this I’ll just leave you with
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this thermal image though that I thought was
pretty cool of it operating without the case on
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and as always thanks for watching