[QUESTION] Only downloads in 48khz max

[lieferant]

I tried to download many different albums but I do not succeed in downloading them in 96khz
I use these settings:

Country Code : US
Sound Quality : HI_RES
Video Resolution : 1080
Download Threads : 1
Only M4a : False
Show download progress : False(enable when threadnum=1)
Use hyphens : False(between number and title)
Add year : No(in album title)
Add explicit tag : False
Playlist songs in artist folders : False(organized with artist folder)
Include singles : True(download artist album)
Save covers : True
Version : 2020.5.19.0
Enter to return.

Does anyone know what I need to change to be able to download 96khz music?

Thanks a lot!

[vteccorp]

44.1 / 48khz (24bit) is the max what you will get using TIDAL-GUI. If you use a software decoder (TIDAL application) the audio will be unpacked to 88.2 / 96kHz and if you use a hardware decoder (dedicated MQA audio devices) the files will be unpacked up to 176 / 192kHz.

[lieferant]

Okay, I get that.
Thank you for the help!

[leunamemar]

44.1 / 48khz (24bit) is the max what you will get using TIDAL-GUI. If you use a software decoder (TIDAL application) the audio will be unpacked to 88.2 / 96kHz and if you use a hardware decoder (dedicated MQA audio devices) the files will be unpacked up to 176 / 192kHz.

Thanks!! That help me a lot!

[MarvinAbedes2000]

Okay, I get that.
Thank you for the help!

what does that even mean and how should i get 192khz too i am using tidal dl

[neaumusic]

Okay, I get that.
Thank you for the help!

what does that even mean and how should i get 192khz too i am using tidal dl

You cannot use software, MQA is a stupid attempt to only provide audio to authenticated hardware.

Audio provider just has a big list of key pairs (public/private keys) and gives either public or private key to official hardware providers, who keep it secret then sign a message and send the encrypted message back, when the audio provider decodes it using the other half of the key, and therefore knows the hardware is legitimate. Or, maybe they send audio encrypted with the audio providers half of the key and the hardware is responsible for using it's half to decode the audio.

I think it's stupid because it costs more money for the end user, and MQA will no doubt be cracked in the future, when it becomes obsolete anyways. If you're paying for lossless audio, you should just get the highest quality audio in my opinion.

Most people don't even care about lossless anyways, and the files become HUGE at 192.

[ghost]

I'm using tidal-dl
And i have tidal hifi account logged in
But I can't download 24bit music
It downloads only 16bit music
Even if the music is [M] masters certified hi-res
Plz any solution for this
I'm using latest tidal-dl Version
Plz help

[C27U]

I'm using tidal-dl
And i have tidal hifi account logged in
But I can't download 24bit music
It downloads only 16bit music
Even if the music is [M] masters certified hi-res
Plz any solution for this
I'm using latest tidal-dl Version
Plz help

Yes some of the music in tidal does not support mqa so it only to 16 or sometimes just flac

[ViPiMP]

Hey, syr but if I remember it right, I’d download 96kHz files with Tidal-dl.

As example:
The Album: „Amnesty“ by „Crystal Castle“
It come with a 96kHz sample rate being MQA but before the first unfold by the MQA Core (Software).
You can check it yourself using the Command Line Edition of Tidal-Dl and the given URL.

btw
Greetings from Germany. ✌🏼

„Amnesty“ by „Crystal Castle“ Album URL:
https://tidal.com/album/77640927

[ViPiMP]

44.1 / 48khz (24bit) is the max what you will get using TIDAL-GUI. If you use a software decoder (TIDAL application) the audio will be unpacked to 88.2 / 96kHz and if you use a hardware decoder (dedicated MQA audio devices) the files will be unpacked up to 176 / 192kHz.

Thanks!! That help me a lot!

44.1 / 48khz (24bit) is the max what you will get using TIDAL-GUI. If you use a software decoder (TIDAL application) the audio will be unpacked to 88.2 / 96kHz and if you use a hardware decoder (dedicated MQA audio devices) the files will be unpacked up to 176 / 192kHz.

Syr that I address the old question again, but your answer was and still is partly wrong.

It’s clearly possible to download 96kHz MQA files, because they existing. If you play it without properly MAQ Software Decoder it will play at 96kHz sample rate like a normal FLAC, ALAC ect.
But if a software like Amarra Luxe, Play, Tidal app ect is existing, it unfolds the 96kHz to 192 kHz completely software based. If you also have a MQA Digital-to-Analog Converter, then it grabs the 192kHz stream again, and completes it with the MQA Hardware Decoding Process, providing you the best possible Sound. Being then 384 kHz or whatever. The second decode or unfold couldn’t be checked because ever being a analog signal.

thank you for the attention.
greetings

As proof, download the example Album at the end.

Example:

„Amnesty“ by „Crystal Castle“ Album URL:
https://tidal.com/album/77640927

[ViPiMP]

As proof, download the example Album at the end.

Example:

Those are only 48kHz

Audio

Format                      : FLAC

Format/Info                 : Free Lossless Audio Codec

Duration                    : 2 min 32 s

Bit rate mode               : Variable

Bit rate                    : 1 601 kb/s

Channel(s)                  : 2 channels

Channel layout              : L R

Sampling rate               : 48.0 kHz

Bit depth                   : 24 bits

Compression mode            : Lossless

Stream size                 : 29.2 MiB (99%)

Writing library             : Mutagen 1.45.1

Mate, are you sure about that?
Files uploaded for demonstration and research purpose.

https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0XcoA_OxSVXKmuVwbf8j6cTbg#10_-_Crystal_Castles_-_Ornament

[CtheG]

Basically just adding my guessing to what @vteccorp wrote.

In my understanding from what I've watched and read:

• MQA adds voodoo to audio. Which it does my encoding stuff into audiosignal.
• these are also saved into normal audiofiles (e.g. flac)
• you need special hardware(/software?) to decode the voodoo
• MQA claims that the decoded results sound better than the bitdepth/samplerate of the file indicate
• therefore 44 kHz 16 Bit becomes whatever and 24 Bit 48 kHz becomes whatever
• there might be a publication for which actual file-quality is neccessary for MQA-equivalent voodoo
• It's suspicious that the official tidal apps does not indicate the current bitrate/bitdephts/samplerate, only indicates 'master'.
• All this does is, it make it more confusing which actual music-file is available for download/streaming.

For example Apple Music offers low AAC, normal AAC, Lossless, and Hi-Res. When lossless, they show which bitdepth/samplerate is currently used and when downloading (DRM) they are actually much bigger.

One could compare downloaded/cached Master file size on an Android device with drm-free filesize etc. Or look into network statistics and come to a conclusion when the traffic increased from e.g. 200mb to 1gb.

[chosen179]

In the player supporting MQA, it seems that not all songs can be expanded into 96 kHz, but the original 48 kHz